I am looking for backing for a study in the possibilities of space travel.
Using a somewhat unconventional possess. If anyone has any information that
might help please let me know.
This possess will take about $385,000.00 to get all the equipment needed. I
have figured it will also take at least two years for the outcome to be
proved. I am looking for federal grants but the time limit is so far out it
may take too long for an answer.
There is however a Congressman that I have been in contact with who is all
for this kind of study.
Still waiting to see what’s going to happen.
Thank You
Steve "Shorty" Owen

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:54:54 +0200, j.vano…@chello.nl wrote:
>Successful Launch for Boeing-Built Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 Satellite

>ST. LOUIS, October 01, 2003 – Last night, a successful launch orbited Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1, a Boeing 601HP satellite built by Boeing [NYSE:BA] for PanAmSat Corporation, Wilton, Conn., and JSAT Corporation of Japan. The satellite will provide coverage over North America, Central America, Alaska and Hawaii from an orbital slot between the Hawaiian Islands and the U.S. west coast.

>The 4,090 kg (8,998 lbs) satellite

So, what was it?  Was it 4090 kg = 9016 lb?

Or was it 8998 lb (WTF is that silly "s" doing at the end of their
symbol, anyway) = 4081 kg?

Or maybe a nice round 9000 lb, a number probably best converted to 4.1
Mg?

Or is it the 4060 kg = 8951 lb (they also use that goofy "lbs") at
separation, as stated in the Boing fact sheet at the URL below?
That’s probably what it is; maybe just miscopying 4060 as 4090 (or the
other way around on the Boeing page), or maybe some other unstated
error intervening.

When will you rocket scientists learn?   All those Fred Flintstone
units do is to allow the opportunity for errors, such as those seen
above.

Gene Nygaard
  At the present time, however, the metrical system
  is the only system known that has the ghost of a
  chance of being adopted universally by the world.
                     – Alexander Graham Bell,1906

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> rocketed to geosynchronous transfer orbit aboard a Zenit-3SL provided by Sea Launch Company, LLC. Lift-off occurred at 9:03 p.m. PDT (4:03 a.m. GMT) from the Sea Launch Odyssey Launch Platform positioned on the equator in the Pacific Ocean. The spacecraft received its first signals at about 10:03 p.m. PDT at a ground station at Fucino, Italy, confirming normal operation.

>“Communications satellites have erased the distance between the far corners of the globe,” said Dave Ryan, president of Boeing Satellite Systems International, a wholly owned subsidiary of Boeing. “Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 will continue that heritage as it also links the aspirations of PanAmSat and JSAT, who will use it to deliver trans-Pacific communications services. We are very proud to continue our legacy of teamwork with these two very important long time customers.”

>Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 with a final orbit slot at 127 degrees west longitude is the 207th Boeing-built commercial communications satellite launched to date. Forty years ago this year, the Boeing-built Syncom ushered in a revolution as the world’s first geosynchronous communications satellite.

>Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 will support PanAmSat’s domestic cable program distribution services as well as the Horizons international joint venture of PanAmSat and JSAT. The spacecraft will carry a total of 48 active transponders, 24 each in Ku-band and C-band. The Horizons partnership will use the spacecraft’s Ku-band payload, known as Horizons-1, to offer a variety of digital video, Internet and data services. In addition, the Ku-band payload on Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 will be able to deliver content an
>d services between the United States and Asia, using a teleport in Hawaii.

>The C-band portion of the new spacecraft, known as Galaxy XIII, will be operated separately as part of PanAmSat’s Galaxy cable neighborhood, which serves the domestic U.S. cable industry. Galaxy XIII will be used to replace capacity on Galaxy IX, a Boeing 376 model that will move to a new orbital position and continue to provide services.

>PanAmSat Corporation (NASDAQ:SPOT) is the premier provider of global video and data broadcasting services via satellite. For more information on PanAmSat, visit the company’s web site at www.panamsat.com. JSAT is a leading satellite operator in the Asia-Pacific region. For more information on JSAT, visit the company’s web site at www.jsat.net.

>A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world’s largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing IDS is a $25 billion business that provides systems solutions to its global military, government and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; the world’s largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world’s largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the p
>rimary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA’s largest contractor; and a global leader in launch services.

>###

>Contacts:
>Ronea Hart
>Boeing Satellite Systems
>310-364-7575
>ronea.h…@boeing.com

>Madonna Walsh
>Boeing IDS News Bureau
>314-234-1362
>Madonna.a.wa…@boeing.com

>Note to editors:
>High-resolution photos of Galaxy XIII/Horizons-1 and QuickTime video clips of a spacecraft deployment animation and other construction milestones are all available for download at: http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/hsc_pressreleases/photo…

>A Galaxy XII/Horizons-1 fact sheet can be accessed at
>http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/factsheets/601/galaxy_x…

>Jacques

>Editor: www.spacepatches.info

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> !!! WHACK !!!

> Get the fuck out of here, psycho.  The more you meddle and stick your
> netkook nose where it doesn’t belong the more I will continue to whip your
> sorry gay ass.  You ain’t seen nothing yet!

> About Alan Erskine <alanersk…@optusnet.com.au>

> Alan Erskine is a well known Australian netkook, psychopath, and pedophile
> who lives in Melbourne.  He usually stalks and harasses the posters of the
> sci.space groups, although he is known to make excursions into a wide
range
> of other groups for the purposes of trolling and stalking and harassing
the
> participants there.  He is currently under investigation by the
authorities
> in Australia.  If you fall victim to his frequent attacks and
> stalking/harassment campaigns, like so many in the sci.space groups have,
> notify ab…@optusnet.com.au .  This psycho is dangerous.

> Most sane participants have been forced to killfile him for his frequent
> violent outbursts at posters and his unrelenting attacks.  Some are taking
> legal action against him.

> Here are just a few of his victims.  He has been stalking and harrasing
> Scott and Betty Grissom relentlessly.  Scott Grissom is the son of Gus
> Grissom, the second American in space, who died in an Apolo 1 training
> exercise fire, and Betty Grissom, 75, is his widow.

> Alan has also been waging long-time stalking and harassment campaigns
> against other well-known members of the space community, including Richard
> Katz of NASA, John Maxson, and his sons Paul and Daniel Maxson.

> Alan is not just content to harass his victims in the newsgroups, he
> usually also stalks them via email.  If you find yourself on the receiving
> end of Alan’s famous psychotic emails, contact ab…@optusnet.com.au
> immediately, as well as the law enforcement agencies in Melbourne,
> Australia.  This psycho is very, VERY dangerous.  Do not attempt to reason
> with him yourself, many others have tried and he does not respond to
> reason.  Let the authorities deal with him.

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hi

I am french and I discover the project galileo at school. I am a
student in Bordeaux.

And I want to know what you think about it, what is at stake with this
project, why some countries agree and other want to make it collapse.

I am above all interested by what americans thinks about it.
Here, some people say USA is afraid of Galileo project. Is it right?

thanks for answering me

May

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        [This is for an utterly trivial purpose on another NG, an
alternate history where Ronald Reagan read Jerry Pournelle's _The
Big Rain_ at a vulnerable moment]

        Article II of the OST seems to deny any hope of owning
parts of other worlds unless a signatory repudiated the treaty.

                             Outer Space Treaty

       Treaty on Principles Governing The Activities Of States In The
      Exploration And Use Of Outer Space, Including The Moon And Other
                     Celestial Bodies January 27, 1967

                                 Article II

   Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not
   subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of
   use or occupation, or by any other means.

        However, looking at Article VIII

                                Article VIII

   A State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into
   outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such
   object, and over any personnel thereof, while in outer space or on a
   celestial body. Ownership of objects launched into outer space,
   including objects landed or constructed on a celestial body, and of
   their component parts, is not affected by their presence in outer
   space or on a celestial body or by their return to the earth. Such
   objects or component parts found beyond the limits of the State Party
   to the Treaty on whose registry they are carried shall be returned to
   that State Party, which shall, upon request, furnish identifying data
   prior to their return.

        It occurs to me that if one were engaged in a terraforming
project one might argue that the replicating chemicals used in such
a project were merely extensions of the original "object" launched from
Earth and therefore under the jurisdiction and control of the State
Party from whose territory the object was launched. The planet itself
would still be subject to II but the ecosystems on it would be ownable.

        Since topsoil is to a large extent a biological product, this
ownability might extend down many meters.
—
 It’s amazing how the waterdrops form: a ball of water with an air bubble
inside it and inside of that one more bubble of water. It looks so beautiful
[...]. I realized something: the world is interesting for the man who can
be surprised.                                   -Valentin Lebedev-

******************************************************************

Scientist:  "I just measured this box with my ruler.  It has one
human-foot."

CT:  "You mean to say that the box is one foot long, right?"

Scientist:  "I mean to say that it has one human-foot."

CT:  "How can it have a human foot if it is just a box?  I’m certain
that what you mean to say is that your box has the same length as one
human foot, with length being a common quality to both the box and the
foot.  But a "human-foot" as a bodily appendage is distinctly
different from a "foot" as a measure of length."

Scientist:  "You are just being pedantic.  The terminology you are
using may apply to the field of biology, but it does not apply to my
specialty field of measuring boxes."

CT:  "Um, no.  I see a distinct conceptual difference between a human
foot and the length of the side of a box."

Scientist:  "Now you’re just playing with semantics!"

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And now, which ERSKINE is OURS?
I mean the one we share with SCI.SPACE, ALT.CATS REC.TRAVEL and a few
hundreds newsgroups where the same psychopath flames and harass
people.

Please post the solution, so that innocent bystanders are not caught
in the fire, as the ERSKINE coward won’t show up and tell.
And, of course, don’t forget to mail <ab…@optusnet.com.au> to have
<alanersk…@optusnet.com.au> terminated.
With enough mail, <ab…@optusnet.com.au> may reconsider if they
really make a profit on ERSKINE’s bucks.

Erskine G
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Mobile Service   0409 546 112

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(03) 9537 0117

 Erskine Se
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(03) 9527 2189

 Erskine T
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(03) 9326 1794

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(03) 9749 5892

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Further on the very slowly evolving matter of whether China has
a system to keep tabs on things in orbit, something analogous to
the US’ Space Surveillance Network.

http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-08/11/content_253603.htm

  Alarm system warns of space debris
  ( 2003-08-11 06:56) (China Daily)

  Shenzhou V, due to become China’s first manned spaceship when it
  is launched this autumn, will be fitted with an alarm system to
  avoid collisions in space, it was announced at the second National
  Space Debris Workshop held in Shanghai at the weekend.

  The alarm system will keep the spacecraft away from the orbit of
  space debris by automatically changing its propulsion and speed,
  said Professor Du Heng, chief scientist at the Centre for Space
  Science and Applied Research under the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

  To ensure the smooth launch and return of Shenzhou V, the centre
  is keeping a close watch over the 9,131 trackable pieces of space
  debris to screen those that are most likely to get in the way of
  the spaceship. They are making calculations to a high degree of
  accuracy and then putting forward suggestions as to how to avoid
  collisions.

[Note that this doesn't necessarily mean that the primary data is
being obtained by Chinese sensors; there's at least a fair chance
that they're getting orbital data from the US or Russia through
direct or indirect routes. OTOH, it doesn't rule out that the
PRC is doing at least some satellite tracking itself.]

[snip]

  Li Benzhen — an official with the Commission of Science,
  Technology and Industry for National Defence — said: "The
  research into space debris that might fatally destroy manned
  spacecraft is greatly significant to China, even though it did
  not start until 2000 and is very much behind that in the United
  States and other countries.”

  The commission has over 30 million yuan (US$3.63 million) in funding
  for the period between 2000 and 2005 to research how to minimize the
  effects of space debris and develop protection against it . It is
  working to improve observation methods, enhance studies into space
  debris environments and set up a data bank to help China’s space
  exploration.

  Li said China has put into operation an optical telescope with a
  diameter of 25 centimetres and will "soon” launch one with a
  diameter of 65 centimetres.

[I suspect "launch" just means "put into operation."]

  The largest optical telescope in the United States has a diameter
  of 3.64 metres. China will continue to invest more in research
  into space debris to reach the international level, said Dong Yang,
  a deputy division director at the Ministry of Finance.

I have another column this week on why space stuff costs so
much–because we expect it to:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98228,00.html

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