Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the
Chinese Space Program? Does anyone know or have any idea what their plans
are with regard to perhaps having a manned space program in the future?
There does seem to be all that much information out there on the chinese
space program.
John David Beegle
> Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the
> Chinese Space Program? Does anyone know or have any idea what their plans
> are with regard to perhaps having a manned space program in the future?
One source is _1993-1994 Europe & Asia in Space_. I suppose if asked
nicely I could dig up the information about who publishes it (some
part of the US government).
apri…@WPI.EDU (John David Beegle) writes:
>Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the
>Chinese Space Program? Does anyone know or have any idea what their plans
>are with regard to perhaps having a manned space program in the future?
Hopefully challenge the US to a space race to Mars like we
did with the old Soviet Union
Our manned Mars programs seem to be getting pushed out of
existance by Congress and we need a new ‘jump-start’ to get our space
program revitalized IMHO.
>There does seem to be all that much information out there on the chinese
>space program.
Huh?
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Jim Kingdon (king…@harvey.cyclic.com) wrote:
: > Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the
: > Chinese Space Program? Does anyone know or have any idea what their plans
: > are with regard to perhaps having a manned space program in the future?
The April 1997 issue of Jane’s Intelligence Review should contain my
article dealing with the Chinese manned space programme. My copies have
yet to arrive, but I assume that the article will have been published on
schedule !
Phillip Clark
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In article <m2wwqu1tvf….@harvey.cyclic.com> king…@harvey.cyclic.com (Jim Kingdon) writes:
>> Does anyone know where I might be able to find any information on the
>> Chinese Space Program? Does anyone know or have any idea what their plans
>> are with regard to perhaps having a manned space program in the future?
>One source is _1993-1994 Europe & Asia in Space_. I suppose if asked
>nicely I could dig up the information about who publishes it (some
>part of the US government).
USAF Phillips Laboratory/XPF in Albuquerque: 505 846-1761
Hello Phillip,
You seem to be knowledgeable about Russian launch hardware.
My company is designing a privately financed 700 pound spacecraft to
be launched to a Near Earth Asteroid. I have spoken with the
appropriate MacDac commercial launch people, and their original
estimate was about $50 million, all inclusive. However, they recently
approached us with a considerably lower estimate.
Also, we were informally approached by the Ariane people who suggested
a price of about $9.5 million for our spacecraft as a secondary
payload.
Two prominent Russians, formerly highly placed in the USSR space
program, have indicated that they could arrange a dedicated launch for
us on an SS-19 for less than $9 million, perhaps as low as $7 million.
Can you please comment on the SS-19, and its reliability and
capabilities, and on other possible launch vehicles we should be
looking at?
Can you direct me to any other sources for related information?
Thank you in advance,
Jim Benson
Space Development Corporation
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J…@SpaceDev.Com (Jim Benson) wrote:
>Hello Phillip,
Oops, sorry
Was supposed to be email.
Space Development Corporation
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On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Jim Benson wrote:
> J…@SpaceDev.Com (Jim Benson) wrote:
> >Hello Phillip,
> Oops, sorry
Was supposed to be email.
Well, I haven’t seen it yet; you might want to try mailing it again.
Phil
There is a magazine called " Space News " which carries some of the most
up to date international space news (thats published). The Chinese have
major plans to develop a manned space program which may create a run for
the money…another REALLY COLD war in space. The Chinese have already
gone through primary astronaut selections and do not publish any news
regarding this, one only has to recognize their plans have not changed
over the years, only their need for capital investments. The Chinese are
a very dedicated country when it comes to doing things, and space is a
real item they are pursuing as the recent destruction of a town by a
failed satellite proves. Do not under-estimate the Chinese or their drive
to control, Hong Kong being another example.
William Gallant <gall…@pr.erau.edu> writes:
>There is a magazine called " Space News " which carries some of the most
>up to date international space news (thats published). The Chinese have
>major plans to develop a manned space program which may create a run for
>the money…another REALLY COLD war in space. The Chinese have already
>gone through primary astronaut selections and do not publish any news
>regarding this, one only has to recognize their plans have not changed
>over the years, only their need for capital investments. The Chinese are
>a very dedicated country when it comes to doing things, and space is a
>real item they are pursuing as the recent destruction of a town by a
>failed satellite proves. Do not under-estimate the Chinese or their drive
>to control, Hong Kong being another example.
ANY idea of what their manned rocket time tables are????
Would you yourself hazard a guess. My guessestamite == 10 to 30years
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In article <1997Apr17.232002.26…@eos.arc.nasa.gov>,
Jim Stevenson’s reader <jim…@eos.arc.nasa.gov> wrote:
> ANY idea of what their manned rocket time tables are????
>Would you yourself hazard a guess. My guessestamite == 10 to 30years
The Chinese were saying they’d put someone up in orbit by 2000. That time
table may have been pushed back by the Lawn Munches (errrm…better be
more PC than that! ;)) Long March failures.
I would wonder how the Europeans and Japanese will feel about China having
a manned orbtial capability and they not…
Will
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suddenly I see phantoms dancing in the shadows…[saying] pointly as words,
"What you know is nothing little man; what you have to learn, immense." – CD
Jim Stevenson’s reader (jim…@eos.arc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: ANY idea of what their manned rocket time tables are????
: Would you yourself hazard a guess. My guessestamite == 10 to 30years
My suggestion is around three years. Maybe I am an optimist ! Check my
article in the April 1997 issue of Jane’s Intelligence Review: "Chinese
designs on the race to space. In this I try to bring together all of
the reports which have appeared concerning the Chinese manned space
programme. I am sure that a few people will disagree, but this time I
think that the Chinese are serious about a manned flight.
Phillip Clark
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pscl…@dircon.co.uk (Phillip Clark) writes:
>Jim Stevenson’s reader (jim…@eos.arc.nasa.gov) wrote:
>: ANY idea of what their manned rocket time tables are????
>: Would you yourself hazard a guess. My guessestamite == 10 to 30years
>My suggestion is around three years. Maybe I am an optimist ! Check my
Willing to wager???? I’ll give ya 10 to 1 odds Chinese will have
not performed a manned space mission ( >7 days in 1 strech in low earth
orbit or higher) by April 1st 2000 AD. Thats how sure I am.
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>The word ‘hacker’, although once a noble term describing a smart
>programmer who would fix things by using quick’n'dirty fixes nobody
>else could understand, has changed its meaning, and only a fool would
>be proud to call himself a hacker now.
What ya calling me a fool????;) I prefer the term :
"ingenuitly gifted"
-always avail. to those who can e-mail;Sean Nelson
Jim Stevenson’s reader wrote:
> pscl…@dircon.co.uk (Phillip Clark) writes:
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> >The word ‘hacker’, although once a noble term describing a smart
> >programmer who would fix things by using quick’n'dirty fixes nobody
> >else could understand, has changed its meaning, and only a fool would
> >be proud to call himself a hacker now.
> What ya calling me a fool????;) I prefer the term :
> "ingenuitly gifted"
> -always avail. to those who can e-mail;Sean Nelson
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Does this mean hacker goes back to the terminology for a
bad golfer?
Hacker’s are good guys who go into code and write it or fix
it more by trained intuition than science and planning. While
I have "hacked" some code to make quick fixes I never felt I
was quite good enough to call myself a hacker.
One talented hacker said no program should be written that
could not be understood by a single person. This particular
hacker would not have cared for some of the very large
projects I have worked on that had hundreds of software
developers working to produce large software components
that integrated with other large software components
which no one person had any hope of understanding.
Forgive me, this has no real relation to either the
Chinese Space Program or the topics that should be
addressed on sci.space.policy
Mike Walsh
Jim Stevenson’s reader (jim…@eos.arc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: pscl…@dircon.co.uk (Phillip Clark) writes:
: >Jim Stevenson’s reader (jim…@eos.arc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: >: ANY idea of what their manned rocket time tables are????
: >: Would you yourself hazard a guess. My guessestamite == 10 to 30years
: >My suggestion is around three years. Maybe I am an optimist ! Check my
: Willing to wager???? I’ll give ya 10 to 1 odds Chinese will have
: not performed a manned space mission ( >7 days in 1 strech in low earth
: orbit or higher) by April 1st 2000 AD. Thats how sure I am.
I am not a gambler in that sense ! However, using your >7 days criteria
the US did not have a space mission until Gemini 5 in 1965 and Russians
not until 1970 with Soyuz 9 ! Tell that to Gagarin, Glenn, Scott
Carpenter, G Titov, Schirra, etc, etc, etc.
BTW, in your date you did not specify the time zone it relates to !
Phillip Clark
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William Baird <wba…@acca.nmsu.edu> writes:
>I would wonder how the Europeans and Japanese will feel about China having
>a manned orbtial capability and they not…
Driven to gain their own manned capability, I would hope. Espically as
they have a not-so-driven interest now….
Frank
In article <hRH42ER.frankglo…@delphi.com>, frankglo…@delphi.com
writes
>William Baird <wba…@acca.nmsu.edu> writes:
>>I would wonder how the Europeans and Japanese will feel about China having
>>a manned orbtial capability and they not…
> Driven to gain their own manned capability, I would hope. Espically as
>they have a not-so-driven interest now….
> Frank
Japan’s Hyflex and HOPE programmes suggest that they at least are
thinking towards a manned capability. As for Europe, her arteries appear
a little more sclerotic. I suppose it might put more life into FESTIP.
Time to ask some of our MPs, I feel
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Michael Martin-Smith