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There Goes The Sun?

That’s the question I ask in this week’s Fox News column.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html


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7 Responses to “There Goes The Sun?”

  1. admin says:

    Rand Simberg wrote:
    >That’s the question I ask in this week’s Fox News column.

    >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html

    You seem to think that our understanding of the sun is based on
    our observation of the sun in the past few decades. We have much
    better information about the sun then that. It is a main sequence
    yellow star. We have observed many of those. They are somewhat
    predictable.

    As for letting private enterprise take care of monitoring solar
    weather I think it would work fine. For the more important
    terrestrial weather you also mention, I know it can work. My
    father was offered a job by a private weather company here
    in Canada 20 years ago. He didn’t take the permanent job offered,
    only a small contract, but as far as I know the company is
    still in business.

    Alain Fournier

  2. admin says:

    Rand Simberg wrote:

    > That’s the question I ask in this week’s Fox News column.

    > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html

    Tomorrow’s leadign story on CNN:
    "Sun has unprecedented solar activity: women, minorites and children hit
    the hardest. Bush’s tax cuts believed to be to blame."


    Scott Lowther, Engineer
    Remove the obvious (capitalized) anti-spam
    gibberish from the reply-to e-mail address

  3. admin says:

    On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:09 -0800 (PST), simberg.interglo…@org.trash

    (Rand Simberg) wrote:
    >That’s the question I ask in this week’s Fox News column.

    >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html

    To respond:

       Re terrestrial weather, the issue becomes one of the public
    interest. It can literally be a matter of life and death; Forcing
    people to pay to stay alive is…a bad idea.

       Re space weather, a thought comes up: maybe it could be like the
    Postal Service? Run by government, funded by everybody?

       Realistically, though: C’mon…$8M? That’s PENNIES to government.
    WHY privatize something that cheap?

    John

  4. admin says:

    "John Penta" wrote …

    > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:11:09 -0800 (PST), simberg.interglo…@org.trash
    > (Rand Simberg) wrote:

    > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html

    I usually don’t bother with those columns, but as it provoked an
    interesting response I took a look and was pleasantly surprised
    by the /relative/ lack of preaching.  I’d say "Keep it up." but I’m
    not that optimistic.

    > To respond:

    >    Re terrestrial weather, the issue becomes one of the public
    > interest. It can literally be a matter of life and death; Forcing
    > people to pay to stay alive is…a bad idea.

    Yeah, yeah but it’s done all the time.  (I’m tempted to say "particularly
    in America" but that’s not the worst country.)  

    However I think terrestrial weather is much like roads & rail.  
    Required infrastructure which /needs/ government funding one way or
    another.  It could be privatised to some extent but its not likely to
    make enough money from paying (non-governmental) customers
    without major disruptions to existing usage.

    >    Re space weather, a thought comes up: maybe it could be like the
    > Postal Service? Run by government, funded by everybody?

    >    Realistically, though: C’mon…$8M? That’s PENNIES to government.
    > WHY privatize something that cheap?

    Anything which can be run reliably by company(ies) at a profit without
    provoking significant disruption to the economy is a potential candidate
    for privatisation.  The amount isn’t really significant.

    I would be opposed to any replacement to the present space weather
    center that would make the information more restricted than it presently
    is for the general public, scientific and amateur satellites.  However
    I would have thought some combination of funding from commercial
    satellite operators and / or commercialized ‘value added services’ could
    be arranged.

    If nothing else the space insurance industry would not be happy about
    the center’s disappearance and if they’re not happy premiums go up and
    if premiums go up satellite owners aren’t going to be happy.

  5. admin says:

    "Rand Simberg" <simberg.interglo…@org.trash> wrote in message

    news:3fe89132.162266206@news.west.earthlink.net…

    > That’s the question I ask in this week’s Fox News column.

    > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102318,00.html

    1.  The "End of the World" group now has new life – after the Y2K
    non-events.

    2.  Just in time for those federal cuts in solar observations – so that we
    won’t know – when "the big one" does happen – see # 1.

    3.  Further proof that like the "random walk" theory for financial markets –
    the sun is being manipulated – see # 1.

    GB

  6. admin says:

    > Realistically, though: C’mon…$8M? That’s PENNIES to government.  WHY
    > privatize something that cheap?

    The bigger question is whether privatization would work, or whether it
    would be another Landsat [1] or SeaWiFS [2].

    As for dollars, the big item is not the $8 million, but replacing SOHO
    which is well beyond its design life and which has been having various
    failures.  Plus whatever future satellites or other sensors are
    desired.

    Here are some links on how vital SOHO is and plans for a replacement,
    currently planned to take at least 5 years:

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/soho_value_030619.html
    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/soho_future_030717.html
    http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/

    [1] For example, search for "privatize" in
    http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/remote/landsat/landsat.htm or
    http://www.islandone.org/SpencerAvLeakReports/AvWeek-911028.html

    [2] Planned as a Seasat replacement, eventually succeeded but
    poorly done privatization meant it took some 15 years or so.

  7. admin says:

    On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 02:44:37 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
    John Penta <pent…@uofs.edu> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
    such a way as to indicate that:

    >   Re terrestrial weather, the issue becomes one of the public
    >interest. It can literally be a matter of life and death; Forcing
    >people to pay to stay alive is…a bad idea.

    So we should give everyone free food?

    Anyway, they don’t have to pay.  All they have to do is put up with
    commercials on the evening weather report.


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